The Da´ath board - flat earth zetesis

I received a number of requests for writing something about the shape of the earth. Here we go!

For people familiar with the flat earth debate who are open minded and trying to find veritas/ truth, there is little value in me here repeating the known arguments for and against the different models, such discussions can be found on popular websites and in published literature. If you are new to the topic, I recommend downloading Eric Dubay´s free PDF on the topic, this will get your brain motor started. The most prominent scientific treaty on the topic is probably this one:

Zetesis = questioning things, debating, research...

Let me admit right up front that following my personal studies, I am currently convinced that the ball earth model is a deliberate, Jesuit-created fraud. But even though I am heavily biased, I would ALWAYS keep my mind open for new data and evidence, even though I am quite convinced that no such proof for a ball earth is possible at all. There is no ball earth.

But before examining the shape of Earth, we should examine its supposed movements in the heliocentric model. The proposed movements are 100% impossible and the reason is simple: there is no parallax in the night sky, the zodiac constellations have remained unchanged since thousands of years. On top of this indisputable fact, NASA themselves have accidentally proven that earth lies at the center of what we call the universe (all things), you find my argumentation here and here. Next, I perceive NASA´s Moon story as an easily exposable hoax, you find my arguments on this topic here. Following my argumentations and conclusions, I would assume that earth lies central and unmoving, UNLESS someone proves otherwise. Note how the angle of proof reverses. From this position it is a much smaller and also logical step to question the spherical earth model. We should note that NASA have been telling us that stars are spherical and this is an already exposed lie, because since a few years we can look at the stars ourselves, using high-power-zoom cameras. If you use a telescope or camera that is strong enough, you will see for yourself that stars (and the smaller so-called planets) are twinkling, colorful light spots, obviously electrical by nature.

also see this short amateur video here.

My main reason for favoring the flat model however is even simpler and it has to do with my favorite (and in my view most important) field of research, which is mythology. Amongst all ancient cosmologies and mythologies, there is not a single word or image about heliocentricity or a spinning ball. Unlike most other scholars I hold that ancient people possessed higher thinking powers (due to zodiacal influences during the Great Year) and the fact that many ancient mythologies show a flat earth is enough for me to assume that earth is flat - UNLESS proven otherwise! Again, the angle of proof is reversed - I would have to be convinced about the sphere, because for me the standard model should be what we see and feel - a motionless, peaceful, flat earth, with clear directions, a blue sky above and red earth below. All of nature strives upwards.

cognitive dissonance
When discussing this topic with other people, you need to be aware that the general public is indoctrinated into blindly believing and accepting the scientific models that the system has put forth and they are indoctrinated not to question information. Our entire education system is structured to train people not to question things. Just learn, and repeat. For this reason, people are not interested in debating something of which they believe they already know the facts. This problem usually suffocates a possible debate about the shape of the earth before it even starts. There are several mechanisms in place that prevent people from discussing something that may threaten their world view, some induced, some biological, others fear based. In case you do find open minded people who are interested in the topic, the below may help to structure the conversation and avoid wasting your time.

The starting point, also when talking to people who have not yet passed the mental hurdle of ridiculing the topic, should be to reverse the angle of discussion: ask people, what evidence they believe they have for a ball earth that flies through space. In this way, you start into the discussion in a leading position. If you start by promoting the flat earth model, you will be in a defensive position, which will get you nowhere at all, you will waste your time; make the ball- believing people defend their view and ask for supportive, scientific evidence. You then reject the following arguments as unacceptable and unscientific:

1. electronic photo/ computerized images, because we cannot be sure whether these have been manipulated. Military technology is usually 20 years ahead, and examples of fake images distributed to the public are abundant. Many NASA pictures have been revealed as computer generated (CGI) and in some cases NASA even admits on their website that images are fake and/or have been altered. They don´t tell us in which way, so all of NASA´s images must be rejected as evidence. We do not know whether pictures are real and we have no means of scientifically verifying this. Take a moment to look at the pictures that NASA has given us over the years, below a very obvious example of fake images. Look at these images for a while....at least one of them must be a CGI fake:

2. we reject as unscientific all videos and photos that use fish eye/ Go-pro camera lenses, because these modern lenses distort curvature and perspective.

3. testimonies from NASA astronauts, because NASA is a Freemasonic organization and most astronauts were Freemasons themselves, including all 12 who claimed to have travelled to the Moon in 1969. If people ridicule this point, ask them what they know about organized Freemasonry and its role in history. Ask them about Operation Paperclip. Ask them who Wernher Von Braun was and ask them why this former Nazi has Psalms 19:1 on his gravestone. Note that the original word used in the OT is firmament, Strong´s Hebrew 7549, which means an extended surface. Check out my view on the great lies of Freemasonry here.

"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."

If we can agree for a moment that the above three sources of data are unscientific and non-evident, ball-earth believing people may at this point try to change the topic, because the conversation would go into an area where it contradicts their induced worldview and potentially threatens it. This triggers biological defense mechanisms in their mind and they will squirm and feel uneasy in the discussion, try to ridicule or escape, this is a biological mechanism. This is also the point in the conversation where people would have to start using their own brain, developing their own thoughts and applying logic. Even open minded people will be forced into a thinking pause, and then realize and admit, if they can, that there are no other things that could be offered as evidence for a ball earth that is flying through space, specifically nothing scientific. We rely completely on NASA and government education for truth. People must realize that this is a problem in itself. All other space agencies are controlled by NASA, by the way.

The next step is to lead the conversation to the scientific, experimental side. Which scientific experiments have been conducted over the centuries to establish movement and shape of the earth? Chances are high that the people know absolutely zero about this research field. They are usually completely unaware about scientific efforts in this area and arguments around the laws of perspective and spherical trigonometry. They don´t know what a Gyroscope is, they haven´t studied the Analemma, don´t know semiotics, noetics, epistemology, semantics, syllogistics, zetesis, apophatism, and of course they have no clue about things like the ecliptic, the tropical year, right acsension, obliquity, Fibonacci, the golden ratio...should we go on? The state of knowledge of the general public is so limited in modern times that it is hard to believe, and this includes academia! People know a whole lot of useless shit, this is the sad truth. We think we are so advanced because we can build computers, but we don´t even know how a magnet works. People´s heads are filled with useless crap.

A gyroscope explained here
How Polaris proves a motionless earth here

So, most people you talk to will most likely not be acquainted with any of these laws and concepts, because these are not taught in school and therefore don´t exist in their view. Taking the time and effort to learn these laws is too much to expect from the average person. And why should people take the efforts and learn something new? Just to destroy their own world view and to go through the pains of swimming against the stream? Just to feel bad because they have been lied to in school? Just to realize that they have been the fools and that there are smarter people who convene in secret to control society. There is no obvious reward for tearing down one´s own world view.

If people are unfamiliar with key laws and astronomical concepts, you should consider ending the conversation, and telling them that without basic knowledge, you are wasting your time talking to them. Alternatively, you can explain that the horizon would have to drop 200 inches for every 5 miles distance, or 5 meters for every 8 kilometers. You can support this fact by drawing a ball on a paper and demonstrating the drop. This means if you observe a building from only 8km, you should not be able to see the bottom 5 meters of it, due to earth curvature! Now check out this example:

When this law is understood, tell them that all experiments that have been conducted (under scientific conditions!) over the centuries have failed to show any curvature at all. These experiments can be repeated on land, water, ice, anywhere on earth at any time; there is no measurable curvature.

I will now add something new to the conversation, and connect to the title of this blog entry. A year ago, when getting into this topic, I noticed a wordplay, which for my personal taste was just too cute to be a coincidence. The popular dart board is phonetically identical to the Hebrew da´ath - which means knowledgeDart had the original, Germanic/ Norse connotation of a pointed, flying arrow....which is precisely, what knowledge is. Let´s take a look at what we can learn from the knowledge board:

All major games and sports emanating from the Anglo-Saxon culture were designed by secret society members/ adepts - why should it be different with the game of darts? The knowledge board contains knowledge about the shape of the earth. A dart board has several concentric circles: the arctic circle, the tropic of Cancer, the equator (this one is missing in my note above), the tropic of Capricorn, and finally, the antarctic circle. This is a perfect fit.

Next thing that I would like to throw into the discussion, are recent impulses from the work of Ken Wheeler. Ken does NOT subscribe to the flat earth model and he would probably hate my blog, this needs to be made clear. According to Ken´s study results, which I find breathtaking, evident and correct, space is created by magnetism, and every magnetic field shows electro-magnetic retardation, which is a phase shift of red and blue. This is the famous egg of creation, an occult mystery that Ken solved and needs to be given all credit for, but that´s another topic.

Note how the word "Inertia" sounds like "in earth".....the dialectric plane
would be the earth plane in this model

It is a scientific fact that the earth´s north pole (acrtic circle) corresponds to magnetic south, here we find high frequency, blue shift energy, which is healing by tendency. The magnetic north corresponds to earth´s south pole, which in the flat model would have to be allocated beneath the earth surface, pointing downwards... unless, and this is what I offer for discussion, we are talking about a ring magnet. In the ring magnet model, the blue shift would be towards the middle, and the red shift outwards. This means, if we consider the flat earth model, the further one would travel outwards on the disk (away from the north pole), the less possible it should become for life to exist. If one would travel far enough, one would at some point simply drop dead from the long wave, destructive red shift energy.

Expanding this theory (and that´s all it currently is.... a theory), it would be entirely possible that the earth disk is much larger than the part that we know, and that the outer lands beyond the ice wall of the antarctic circle are 100% uninhabitable. This could be the reason for the longest lasting military treaty that is in force today, which is the Antarctic treaty. Well, if this the case, who knows what the hell can be found out there - I find it probable that there is nothing at all - just death rays and lifeless lands. The sun´s furthest reach south is the tropic of Capricorn, so the further out we go, the darker and icier it should get.

from my notes: the sun´s movement over flat Earth....in scriptures referred to
as "the meeting tent with god", e.g.Exodus 33:7
The movements of sun and moon in conjuction with the Analemma, also support the flat earth model perfectly. In the above image you see the movement of the annual sun above earth. This model, and this model only, also explains Perehelion and Apohelion, the fact that in winter the sun is closest to earth and vice versa, an officially admitted fact that lacks explanation in the heliocentric model....because it is wrong.

Another thing you might enjoy researching are the two operations above, they are very telling. In summary, ths topic of earth´s true shape is a very rich one and it offers plenty of room for our own research. The dummed down discussion in some internet forums are often infiltrated by shills and also full of uneducated morons.

If you ask me, the double torus and inertial plane, as shown in the image above, are the apple of creation. The apple´s core, french coeur, meaning heart, the green heart of the apple, heart being an earth anagram, is also the green center of the chakra system, the 12-petal lotus, the 12-ness of the zodiac, the blue shift on top corresponds to Jupiter exalting in Cancer, the red shift below is hell, with Mars the red planet exalting in Capricorn. The torus field is the Taurus-field, the big apple, the apple that was dropped when Newton let it fall to the ground and introduced his gravity nonsense!

The apple dropped...meaning the true science of the Taurus field was eliminated!

Krishna and his cows (Tauruses, toruses).....this is magnetism and its Taurus fields. Do you yet see how ancient mythology is far superior to science?


  1. Tesla never said what is written in your picture. Firmament in OT represents what Egyptians called goddess ISIS (the great old virgin mother or undiferentiated unseen matter or water mother - probably what we call ether). Her daughter Nephytis (which is actually ISIS in her different aspect) is differentiated matter or seen matter and she is called fish mother, because visible matter is seen like fishes are seen in the water). They are the two mothers, wifes, sisters of OSIRIS (eternal consciousness which is always hidden from our understanding, this is also AMEN of Egyptians - the hidden one, BRAHMAN of Indians, TAO of Chinese...). They birth out the OSIRIS'S son CHRIST, KRISHNA, - the hero with 10000 faces. This is actually the ONE OSIRIS broken in pieces so he can be the fiery spark in the "heart" of every man. So the one undivided OSIRIS with the help of his wife-mother matter prepares the playground for his division into multiplicity to come into matter as actor-hero in his drama of life. And Krishna which is on one picture with the cows is just the representation of higher consciousness (mind of higher understanding) which is guiding the body to develop it's higher potential (cows represent body with animal nature which has yet not find the divine spark of higher consciousness in itself). So Krishna is cowherd, when the sun was in zodiacal sign of Taurus and CHRIST was shepherd when the sun was in Aries..... Of course if you make analogy with the taurus which is male cow you can also say that nature uses toroidal electro magnetic fields for building her physical bodies which are then ready to be hosted for SONS OF GOD (or son of god in single) - the divine sparks which we are.

    I don't know what is the shape of the earth, but from Walter Russell's cosmogony https://wikischool.org/_media/wr-plane-mass-formation-001.jpg?w=350&tok=0b965e every mass is formed from plae to sphere and dissolved into plane again. So in the end both theories can be true, it just depends on the time observed. And I don't understand you people....Santos Bonacci, you, Jeranism........We are not here to quarrel what is the shape of the earth, we are here to experience life in matter and raise our spiritual potential to find out that when we come here we think we are mortal animals and with our evolution here we find out that we are immortal gods. But both this principles, material and spiritual here are wedded as one and they are both good and must be balanced for a beautiful creative (creas is meat in Greek) life.

    I recommend that for "scientific" understanding you study Walter Russel, how matter is created from plane and develops into the sphere and is then dissolved again into the plane. For "spiritual" understanding is very good to read "westerner" Alvin Boyd Kuhn or "easterner" Sri Aurobindo. But I also can not say if this is true, because this life is meant to be experienced and to be more and not to know more of crappy theories, which are abundant in these days of disinformation.

    1. Hi I will not publish your other spam messages. Go and write your own blog.

    2. Eh, I just wanted to help you a little. You did not do your research properly. I told you Tesla's quote is fake. You don't know what is firmament.....I hope you research more for your own good. Regards.

      Here is excerpt from a book Pythagoras and Delphic mysteries from Edouard Schure about firmament explained in a different way. I hope you will understand:

      We have just seen that modern natural philosophy, in order to explain the world, has been obliged to recognize an imponderable, universal agent, that it has even proved its presence, and, in this way, without knowing it, has fallen in with the notions of ancient theosophies. Let us now try to define the nature and function of cosmic fluid in accordance with the philosophy of occultism in all ages. On this main principle of cosmogony, Zoroaster is in agreement with Heraclitus, Pythagoras with Saint Paul, the Kabbalists with Paracelsus. Cybele-Maïa reigns everywhere, the mighty soul of the world, the vibrating and plastic substance which the breath of the creative spirit uses at its will. Her oceans of ether serve to cement together all the worlds. She is the great mediator between the invisible and the visible, between spirit and matter, between the within and the without of the universe.

    3. The Ether, or 5th element, is NOT the firmament mentioned in scriptures. Now please stop writing comments like "you did not do your research properly". This is insulting.

    4. Em macrocosmically firmament is aether, microcosmicaly is understood differently, but since you write about flat earth we are talking about macrocosmos. About aether (firmament) read from madame Blavatsky Isis unveiled pages 111-136. You also make mistakes with daath, so about this read at least from Manly Palmer Hall - Secret teachings of all ages from pages 117 forward. I appreciate your work, but sorry you have mixed too many things. Of course it is possibility that also I have mixed something.

      So, please enlighten me then what is the firmament according to your understanding..........

  2. HI there, great comment! thanks so much. Aset is definitely NOT the firmament, this is Nut. She is the life principle that comes through water. You are mixing up a few concepts. Nephtys is her sister, not her daughter. And yes, correct, she is the milk mother, while Aset is the blood mother. Amun is NOT Asar. Again, you are mixing up the neteru. Amun is the hidden mind, Asar DNA...DNA gets resurrected in the form of physical people. Christ (karast) is. You quote hero with a thousand faces....this book, unfortunately I must say, is full of CRAP, the author does not understand astrology, the master science. Walter Russell got a lot of things right, but he also had his limits. These limits are now transparent. I am not quarreling about the shape of the earth, I just wrote my point of view into my very own blog. To raise your spiritual potential...in my opinion we should all debate about where we are....and we should question ball earth. Do you want to die and not even understand where you are? Is that spiritual in your view? I have read every single book by Boyd Kuhn....he happens to be my favorite author, aside from the immortal Gerald Massey. My definition of "being spiritual" is to deeply question everything around us and deeply reflect on natural science. I dont subscribe any new age definitions of this term. Again, great comment....we learn from each other. Thanks, instead of posting here you can also write to me: panamajack68@hotmail.com

    1. Hi, to avoid any confusion, I'm a different commentator than the first one. I respect your thoughts about this topic, although I will never be convinced by the flat earth theory until I fall from its edge one day. One the other hand, I don't want to disprove your arguments because according to the concept of "Maya" in Indian mythology, we live in a world of illusion anyway. What I find problematic however, is that this whole discussion divides people into flat-earthers and globe-earthers and when two people quarrel, a third rejoices. I leave it up for anyone to decide who the third one is. So, if some people want us to argue about this topic, their intention might be "dia-bolical" because it literally means (derived from Greek 'διαβάλλειν - diabállein) "to slander": διά- (diá-) "across, through" + βάλλειν (bállein) "to hurl". And slandering is what happens all the time in discussions like this, calling each other’s beliefs as a "crap" or "bullshit". Sorry, but this does not add to anyone's credibility who uses such words nor does it bring the discussion to a factual level. Furthermore, it does not help your argumentation, if it is grounded on disproved quotes like this: https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-earth-is-a-realm-a-tesla-coil.t8466/ If you want to question things, I think you should question the authenticity of such quotes as well. This being said, I always look forward to know about your point of view, even if I can't subscribe to it for the time being, and I would also like to know about your thoughts concerning the hollow earth theory, by the way. Cheers!

    2. Hi there and thanks for pointing out that the Tesla quote may be fake. I removed it, but this doesnt weaken any of the other arguments. "Falling off the edge" is ridiculing the topic, bacause in the model there is no edge. If you can disprove any argument, be my guest, I would be happy to be proven wrong. You see, spiritual people can never lose in an argument: either they are right or they learn something new. The topics in my blog are all highly controversial....these texts are not made for broad audiences. If you want to question things, also question the "meta-debunk"-site that you linked to...who says that what it says there is correct? In my view, the Hollow Earth story is a result of people taking things literal and "material"....the underworld of the ancients (e.g. Amenta of Egypt) became Sheol, or hell, which was already a misunderstanding, and finally it decayed further into people suggesting that there is "something below". I recommend visiting an oil drill company and asking the workers just how hot it gets below the Earth´s surface. Like I said in my text, the angle of proof is reversed in my view: if I see evidence for a sphere that doesnt come from a Masonic club, I will gladly consider it.

    3. I will try to correct the other anonymous who replied and said that MAYA is an illusion and you who asked if I want to die and not even understand where I am, because those two things go hand in hand. MAYA is god's "illusive" power. The word illusion comes from two Latin words il ludo - to play. So MAYA is God's creative power to come from oneness to multiplicity to play his game - drama of creation (creation is play in creas (flesh in Greek). God creates his play so he sacrifices his w(holy) oneness and bifurcates into polarity. Inside himself he creates firmament - unsubstiantial virgin (because he became "two" without sex) matter (mother) ISIS (MAYA) the first womb from where physical creation emerges. Then through ISIS's womb is born visible matter NEPHYTIS (which is actually still ISIS or AUSET just different aspect of her because now she is visible matter). All these neters are actually principles of one god so their relationships (mother, sister, father, wife) vary from situation from where you look at different aspect of them. Through them he creates visible universe inside himself and comes to life through their product - natural world (so one god gets involved into natural world through involution phase. And only in man he can through evolution phase become conscious of himself and reflect back that he started his cosmic play - lila, drama, karma, mara as unconscius animal and becomes fully conscious as God. So when you grasp only that and become awake, you know that your physical body is always in god and there is no death. The Egyptians said that we are now spiritually dead, until our souls awaken from slumber.

  3. So does that mean, that you think that the flat earth model excludes the hollow earth model or do you think a combination of both is possible? I agree that we should question everything because this is what philosphy ("love of wisdom") is all about. I don't claim that the Tesla quote must be intentionally faked, I rather think it was the result of a misunderstanding that the two quotes were not from the same source. When I refer to "falling from the edge of the earth" I just reflect the fears of people who believed in this concept as it is depicted in Flammarion's engraving: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammarion_engraving. I don't know what flat earth model you are refering to. In all the flat earth models I know, the earth has an edge, most prominently represented by the Flat Earth Society: https://i2.wp.com/www.pravda-tv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/bild3-14.jpg For me, a flat earth model without any edges is just a trick to circumvent its biggest weakness. But maybe you can solve another problem, if for example you can explain to me, why the Crux or Southern Cross is not visible on the northern hemisphere if there are no spheres at all? Shouldn't all the stars be visible all the time from any place on the flat earth?

  4. I haven´t given any thought to the hollow earth idea. Flat earth society is a psy-op in my view, which already can be seen looking at the stupid boat dropping off, that is grotesque and designed to ridicule the topic. Flammarion´s engraving I like very much...note how the firmament is passed by the guy...and this leads to the right angle of imagening the model: there is a firmament and at some degree the firmamement would have to cross the earth surface 360 degrees...this would not necessarily mean that the land surface cant continue behing the veil, would it? We dont know. We cant go and check. Nobody can claim knowledge on this topic. Not all stars would be visible everywhere, this is impossible due to perspective. Polaris has been recorded from far below the equator. But I think the stars are the key to solving the riddle. And I agree, the riddle has not been yet solved. All I say is that for me flat earth is the standard and the ball just doesnt cut it.

  5. Thanks for replying. I think, the hollow earth theory is by no means less plausible than the flat theory, so maybe you should check it out. In my point of view, the whole flat earth story is a psyop: https://www.henrymakow.com/2016/02/Flat-Earth-Psyop.html There are too many unsovled problems like the one I mentioned and as long as I can't find a logical explanation for at least one of them, I don't know why I should prefer the flat earth model over another one. But maybe Kant was right: "Let every man seek heaven in his own fashion".

    1. Disagree strongly. Also, Makov may be intersting read on things like feminism, but not on deeper, spiritual topics. The shape of the Earth is a spiritual topic, meaning, it requires a deeper understanding of reality. Makov is not the right source in this case. "seeking heaven" in its original connotation meant that people should use their brain.

  6. Hello I like everything you write, thanks for your blog.
    You are right no one knows how our land is really today

    Here is an interesting video :

  7. I appreciate that you do not attempt to define what the actual shape of the earth is.
    What creeps me out about this notion is that I can't help but think that we are currently living on one side of this magnetic inertial plane. Therefore wouldn't that mean there would be another side to it that would be on the inertial plane of the polar opposite end of the toroid? And if so that means there's another side of the earth plane that we cannot access through known means. Perhaps this is another aspect of the underworld (duat). these are just some thoughts this entry stirred in me. thanks again for another insightful entry. Rauha! Hotep.

    1. This is also a possibility and not so far off from Egyptian texts. Santos teaches that this mirror world also has 7 orbs, and points towards death, while our part has 7 orbs and reaches higher, the other reaches lower...

  8. So quite like the UN Logo tells us in plain sight:

    With a globe model in one's head, one would think, that it pictured a globe viewed from above the north pole and being stretched out in 2D.
    But if one would just look at it without any previous presumptions, it's a dartboard, isn't it.

    1. yes, it is dart board and the UN logo has 33 fields, which is the Masonic signature for this trick.